cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

Part of the reason the housing market is doing what it is, is cause of the affirmative action that the Clinton adm with the help of Ayers, Obama (who denies basically anything that makes him look the least bit bad) and ACORN forcing the banks to change loan requirements for minorities. The attourney for ACORN was, you guessed it. He said on TV then it was a good idea in theory. Hmmm theory brought us to where we are now. I have much more for ya.

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

Here are a couple more facts for you. Yes, I have more. One, Chicago has more deaths a month than the war in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Illinois is 44 Billion, yes with a B in debt for state retirement, worst in the nation. Cook co. has the highest sales tax rate in the nation, and the school system is the worst in the nation on many levels. Who is going to fix our economy again??? Funny thing is, all dem. run the state, no ind. or rep. Of course, he could do better as pres. sure he could.

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

Obama wants to go back and do basically what Carter did in the mid 70s and what Johnson did in the mid 60s. It didnt work then and, its not going to work now other than there are way more people going to be put out of work in the coming year if Obama is put in office and his agendas are passed. this message will be here so that about this time next year, we will see what happens based on what bills are passed if Obama is elected.

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

Look at your history, everytime there has been a democratic congress, the stockmarket has fell or had little growth, Congress not president. If not for the banking system using these ARM and interest only loan tactics on people that didnt understand them, the economy would be doing ok up until late 2007 cause that is about the time that the D congress started imposing their tax ideas and the business cycle started down. There is alot more to that and will go to more detail if wish. I got way mor

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

You cannot tax your way out of debt, you have to control spending and Congress, and congress alone controls that, not Bush, not the VP, Congress. Bush has not done anything other than pass bills into law that Congress wrote. Monetarily speaking, all the Bush blamers are full of crap, before 2007, the economy was doing well other than the banks making risky loans that Clintons adm. pressured them into doing in the late 90s.

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

My whole point is the source of money to which this is going to be funded, taxes. Its all related. When you tax big businesses, they will up prices, when you tax the little businesses that make over 250k, they will just pass the cost on to the consumer or go out of business, if you have companies go out of business, more people need gvt assistance, means more tax money to support them while paying more for goods and services. It never works, ever. Not in thousands of years.

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

its not going to cause the plans are not going to be any cheaper just cause congress is involved now. Everyone seems to think that but just ask medicare people. Oh yeah, its not doing good either. presciptions are going up too. plans are costing more on both private and gvt plans as well. Do you not see this? MD will be charging 4-5 for a bigmac and with the minimum wage hike, its going to get worse cause you make the dollar less valuable and inflation goes rampant. 70s ring a bell, I was there.

cliffkemp (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

The very bailout bill that the tresurer didnt not use the way it was intended. No one was bailed out. Why do you think wall street fell on its butt for a solid week after it was approved. the crisis is not over by a long shot cause people dont understand what it is about. You cannot just print more money to fix everything. You have to get to the root of the problem but people dont want to hear it and just blame randomly who and what they want to.

harekrishna123 (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

harekrishna123 = mdbo10128.Vote for the integrity and survival of the human race, not hair-brained businesses on the brink of extinction.So ask yourself, in even more simple terms, what's more important:honoring every human life being treated with integrity of fixing health problemsormaking sure every business survives that is not serving society well and therefore not making money?

harekrishna123 (December 31, 1969 at 3:59 pm)

If they have gotten a big plan that's discounted, it will go down further. Businesses like McDonald's should seriously be questioned for not insuring their employees. I'm going to have an MD in a few years. I don't want to be limited in who I can treat because people like you exaggerate critiques disproportionately. It's not right. What's worse a few companies going out of business (none w real promise or they'd get over the hump, guaranteed) or people unable to get treated for cancer?